Bit interview..?
I have a TB, he is currently ina loose ring snaffle, but he seems to run right through the bit, Can you give me suggestions on other bits to try?? Please don't update me that I need to retrain him, because i've already tried, its definitely the bit, that needs to be changed. He also get very strong when jumping. All bit suggestions welcome!
Maybe try a Dee Ring snaffle, or an egg butt?
i heard that the Dee Ring snaffles offer deeply of control
I propose a full cheek single jointed smooth copper mouth snaffle bit, and use it with bit keepers to give you slight poll leverage. This will stabilize the mouthpiece, hang on to the bit from sliding in the mouth, and teach your horse to respond to lateral cheek pressure. This is still a non leverage snaffle bit, but will distribute you just enough more stability to accomplish what you stipulation. The very slight poll pressure will be felt and responded to by the horse. And never give up on more training as a solution...training is ongoing through out your lifetime whether you continue with pursuing horsemanship. The strongest horse can be trained to Grand Prix level surrounded by this bit, but you have to be willing to keep developing your form and leg cues to balance everything. Good luck.I hope you make the right choice. A leverage bit will not solve the problem of a strong horse.it will ultimately just engender him stronger.
ADD...going to the full cheek snaffle from a loose ring snaffle is going to a "harsher" bit, since the loose ring snaffle is a very mild bit, and often one and only used to start young horses. So to go to leverage at this point would be overkill anyway.
I'd travel with a kimberwick. Those have adjustable leverage and are harsh satisfactory to get attention but mild enough for an intermediate rider on up.
If you did Retrain him he would know the que "Whoa". That is the ONLY path to keep him listening to the bit. It is the HORSE NOT the bit!! A bit is NOT for control! It is for commutation. If you retrained him then he would rotten your seat & legs. A more harsh bit is not the answer. You can be lazy & not retrain him & you will hold to keep upgrading to a more harsh bit & eventually you'll run out of harsh bits. Then what when you run out of biting bits??
Answers: i own found the exact thing with most of the tbs off the track, that i enjoy taken in, snaffles have no effect when they get pumped up, they will run right through them, as you enjoy said.
my bit of choice for all of them is either a dr. bristol or french snaffle.
they r like rugular snaffles apart from they have 3 joints, with a flat pice within the middle.
the horse has a harder time setting his jaw against them.
avoid the thick and "gentle" bits, as they are useless, and uplift the horse to take hold of the bit. i am assuming this horse was a racer?
if he be raced, that training will always overide any other training.
they are hand riddn and tought to take hold of the bit, and step faster when you shorten the reins and take hold of them.
to slow them down after a race, a jockey will allow the reins to get LONGER and he will stand up surrounded by his stirrups.
for jumping, you might want to use a slow twist snaffle (medium thick) , as you do want him well contained by hand, and not backing off the bit. I hold only ever ridden in a pelham once and i hated it. the horses mouth be dry as a bone, and it lacked sensitivity, the pelham did nothing to encourage salavation or softness and the curb cuff seemed to aggravate the horse...too much leverage, not enough feel.
ps. whether you want to see a really wicked bit that most of them run in...google: ring bit.
they are actually 2 bits. a snaffle and afterwards a full ring which is placed round the lower jaw. then dont for get to affix the tounge tie, which is tied around therir tounge and secured to the bottom jaw. no wonder they have "no mouth" when we get them...lol
Sounds like you call for some leverage!! Maybe a pelham?? You can use one with a shorter shank if you don't want to go adjectives out. It works very well for my Hano x who pulls like a MACK TRUCK! lol
I would try a twist or a kimberwick. i would start slow and then work up to harsher bits if you still obligation more control, I wouldn't put a super hard bit in his mouth at first, it might freak him out.
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(kimberwick bit)
Something near a curb chain. A Pelham is a wonderful bit.
I agree next to the last answer. The Bit is not your whole problem. The horse needs to be trained to fund off the bit not go through it. A harsher bit will further toughen his mouth and eventually you will run out of options. I ride adjectives my hunters with a full cheek snaffle. Never have had a problem surrounded by 20 years. They are trained not to run through the bit. If your horse already has a tough mouth try light HUS ring work with a fluffy bit until you teach him to back off. AND STAY OUT OF HIS MOUTH. A upright rider rides with seat, body, and legs not hands.
