Curb strap and a snaffle..what?
som 1 posted a question saying they used a leather curb strap with a loose ring.why would u do that? and i know it cant be for the purpose of leverage because its a snaffle..can som 1 explain this 2 me?
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Well in this part of the world when fast work is man done the bit ring can be pulled into the horses mouth and the theory behind the strap is to stop that happening.I enjoy seen it happen not with me but next to other shall we say over zealous cattle men.
You ask how if you use enough force it can be done
I'd agree with KJ. Where I'm from, everyone that rides contained by a snaffle has a curb strap/chain-around here it's also known as a chin strap cause it go under the chin. It's basically an unspoken requirement-similar to wearing a helmet when you jump for fun-you may not be required to wear it whether you are just jumping for fun at home or something, but it is devout to wear none the less as a 'just in case' safekeeping type measure. As for pulling through the mouth-it's just like it sounds-the bit can rotate that the ring chunk may end up in the mouth and the bit outside the mouth on the side of the horse's frontage or something similar. This can happen for a number of reasons, most of which someone have already described. It is especially more likely to happen beside a horse that is very hard-mouthed, tries to take sour and so you pull its head around to one side to try to stop it, or on very young/green horses. Not to read aloud that it happens a lot; it's just that have a curb strap is a good safety precaution to get contained by the habit of having. Also, usually a leather/nylon strap is used instead of the fasten strap because some horses like to play with the chain whether they get bored; such as by smacking/flapping their bottom lip or shaking their head up and down to make the manacle jiggle. It might seem funny at first, but it can become rather annoying and a bad dependence rather quickly.
The bit can be pulled through the horses mouth like KJ explained. This can happen when you have a not so economically fitting headstall and the whole thing will slide and rotate around the horses head pulling the bit rings into the horses mouth.
Wowzers, I didn't consider my questions would cause a controversy :) !
As jackz20 explained, around here it is used as a safety estimate as well. I just wanted to know where on earth to position it and I thank all for your input. I am well aware that the chin strap is of no relevevance when used with a snaffle but you haven't met the colt that I am training any, I tell people that he has the equivelant of human A.D.D. He get bored very easily.
I always take home sure that my equipment and tack are adjusted properly so I don't have to verbs about the whole headstall going through his mouth. I also do not use a lot of pressure or briskly cues for turns. When my guy gets bored he will get his lips around the reins and start chewing on them, specifically how I noticed I needed the chin strap because he had actually get the bit ring into his mouth by pulling the rein through, impossible as it sounds, he did do it.
Thanks for all the input and it is nice to see that there are lots of helpful ethnic group out in the horse world. Hopefully, one day one of my answers can help someone too!
Answers: As she explained contained by her question, she is using it to keep the bit from pulling through the colt's mouth. It helps, or you can bring bit guards, which are a pain to put on. A curb strap is easy, and usually does the opportunity.
*Edit: When you are training a colt, you usually begin in a ring snaffle of this type. A colt does not automatically know to endow with to the rein pressure. When you pull on one rein to signal him to give his chief or turn, the bit sometimes pulls through the colt's mouth out one side, or the whole headstall can even turn, since he doesn't know how to carry the bit in his mouth, it can slide right through, rings, reins, headstall, and adjectives, in the worst cases. So putting a chin strap, or curb strap, on will lessen the chance of the bit getting pulled into or through the colt's mouth.
as others have said, its used to attempt to keep the bit from human being pulled thru the mouth, usually due to hard reining, either from express work or from just pulling too gosh darn hard, or if the horse is individual reeealll difficult and tossing its head the other way extremely hard and you are holding solid near the opposite rein...
a lot of people will use simple headstalls, because they are unforced to use and easy to adjust, so there's really very little that will keep the bridle "centered" whether one of the above things happen... this is less likely to take place with an english type bridle, because there are several "features" that help "save the bridle in place" (nosebands, throatlatch, browband, etc..)..
i prefer a loose ring on a horse just being broke because it have the potential for increased sensitivity, and i prefer to start with the most gentlest bit possible.. because the rings of the snaffle can start to move before the actual mouth piece, the horse has the opportunity to memorize to give at the absolute slightest pressure - before the pressure even touches the bit... this is why i at lowest, dont use a full cheek, etc..
that's bizarre... I'd also like to know the answer. I've never heard of this being done
It's call bit hobbles when used on a snaffle bit, and it keeps the rings from rotating and being pulled through the mouth when lateral rein is used. It isn't ideal, but some race use it.
It isn't referred to as a curb strap, since it doesn't function as a curb.
Sometimes, you can pull the bit through its mouth. (Say, you pull hard on one side, and your bridle may finale up in their mouth).
So, this would prevent that
Yes I agree KJ, I hold always used a curb chain or strap on all my snaffles...it simply prevents the bit from pulling through if your horse opens his mouth. Other than that purpose it does nothing..it doesn't interfere at adjectives.
First of adjectives you should not use a curb on any snaffle it is pointless and doesn't do anything, it is only used with regular bits to be an extra to go and get the horse to stop from the pressure. Second when starting a colt you should start with a side pull, you have more control and the young at heart horse learns direction better.
I see how that would work, but why not just get a full cheek bit whether you are having trouble with pull through?
It's called a bit "hobble" and its purpose is to prevent the bit from sliding through the horses' mouth. You'll see these used relatively frequently amongst the vaquero and working cow horse crowd on their young horses.
You'll also see "bit hobbles" being used on loose cheek shanked bits to help save the twist out of the shank while the horse is being ridden. Bob Avila and the rest of the working cow horse crowd use them, I've got several I use on loose cheek shanked bits.
